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it's time for the ship's gonna happen podcast here, with a load of laughs, info and fun. It's tony b, dave b and timmy d. Before I go, I go alone, don't ask me this. And one more song. It ain't too costly? No, I ain't too cheap. So just relax, I'm on my knees.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the ship's gonna happen. Episode number 142 david bleak 142 one, yeah, 142 that. Yeah, 142. That's your pick three numbers today. Right, yes, yeah, alongside me. David B, you heard him. We are the Ship's Gonna Happen podcast. Any views we transmit are only our views and not the views of any business entity or any trucking company. We just do it, David, because of Transportainment, Ka-ka-boom Transportainment. We own the word. You use it. You owe us a dollar. David B, happy Saturday morning.
Speaker 1:I highly doubt that word's used too often, or whatever, because I don't think anybody listens.
Speaker 2:Producer Tony, such a good time to see you.
Speaker 1:It's great to see you First time in the studio in a bit of time.
Speaker 2:A little bit.
Speaker 1:Just due to life stuff and this and that, regardless of what people in my life think, that there's, this is just. Yeah, there was just life stuff going on in the studio this morning got some brand new chairs. This is pretty comfy. I could be like that if I start snoring I blame the chair.
Speaker 2:Ship's gonna happen.
Speaker 1:Recliner, blame the chair because it is a. It's a beautiful saturday morning.
Speaker 1:It's a little overcast, the weather's nice and just kind of a great fall, great fall morning. The show, along with all other shows brought to you by the great divides of 43 east new york street, downtown indianapolis. Great place to go after ship's gonna happen week. Great place to kind of go and unwind. Get here, get a great meal. Here's some great music, like we did last evening with the music of mr david meek playing the piano. It was so awesome and just a great spot to go. If you're ever in town, swing by there. Tell them that the show sent you and you won't be disappointed. Producer Tony, how are you? My friend? This has been a minute since I've seen you.
Speaker 1:It's good to see you. You've been doing all right.
Speaker 2:Just been busy, man, that's good. It never doesn't get busy, right, or not be busy.
Speaker 1:Explain to me how the local high school around here is a 4A school. I'm kind of is it just because they won, or is it size it's?
Speaker 2:technically size-wise, a 3A. Okay, yeah, it's something that me, being from Illinois, which now I'm a Hoosier it's. The one thing I didn't like about indiana sports is the way they do that. They, they, they'll move you up in class where I grew up.
Speaker 1:You're that class so since they've won in football before they've been up, to 6a.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I believe they won the state championship at 5a. My mind is yeah, and they beat a school last night. Yeah. I saw that that recruits Right At their home stadium. So New Pal was ranked number one in 4A.
Speaker 1:Overtime win right yeah overtime.
Speaker 2:Great game. We watched it on the IHSAS. Wait, ihssa, is that what it is? Something like that? Wait, i-h-s-s-a Is that what it is? Something like that? Yeah, sports Scholastic. Yeah, you can watch it on you can download it.
Speaker 1:Marian Games are on there, yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so how are they doing?
Speaker 1:Not good. They have two losses and they're not making the playoffs. Okay, they won't make the playoffs. Okay, they are on the road today, final game of the season at St Francis in Illinois. Oh yeah, Regardless of whether they win or lose, they're not going to make the playoffs and the wins that they have are not quality wins. They just barely beat whoever, and they deserve not to be in. They deserve. It's just one of those years. It's not ever happened.
Speaker 2:It's crazy to only have two losses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in my life That'd be considered not a great season, yeah and to your point with that, the NAIA, like they take like 16 teams, they've always taken 16 teams and to be a two-loss Marion team you're not getting in. Wow, if they would to have gotten in, they would be on the road and just go somewhere and get their backside handed to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it is what it is it's. It's just the down year, the, and there's part of me too. That's not too bad with it, not that I don't want to tailgate the weekend of thanksgiving with nobody on campus, I just prefer. Yeah, I'm kind of glad that it's.
Speaker 2:Well, that's interesting for those that are listening. What Indiana does is, if you win in that state class, that they put you in 3A. What is it? 1a goes up to 6A, right?
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So if you win consistently, they bump you up a class. So they are traditionally a 3A school. Every other sport's 3A Okay. But when it comes to football they have some success and they have been bumped up all the way to 6A. I believe that. Well, remember, they beat Center Grove. Yeah, that's a 6A school, yeah they beat Center Grove in the playoffs. I believe it was Mm-hmm. So yeah, rich history Looks like they're on their way there, because it probably was the two better teams last night in 4A.
Speaker 1:And I think I'm kind of out of the corner of my eye here Is that tree on the south side of the house, budding it looks like it is is one of our trees in our yard is is it really getting buds on it? Yeah, yeah maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I think it's the weather. Oh yeah, yeah, the weather. Around here we've kind of not had a hard, hard frost, but all the leaves are on the trees.
Speaker 1:You get a growth season right now right, and so we have a tree at home that's budding, and it looks like this tree here on the south side. I haven't noticed it, but it probably is yeah, south side well said, right it is.
Speaker 2:I'm like elegantly put, david, right, I'm like okay the southwest tip of the studio.
Speaker 1:That's right, that's right, yep, yep yep, so wow, that's funny.
Speaker 2:So you watched them football last night, or did you just see the scores? I saw the scores before I left this.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the house so what about?
Speaker 2:what about your hometown, lebanon? What do they do in football? That's a big town.
Speaker 1:There should be a lot of growth and a lot of never had excuse me never had a good really this year they had a good season but they've never historically been a good football program.
Speaker 2:Zionsville on the other hand, all right. So do you think most people that work in lebanon lived in zionsville? Will that, because those towns are real close? Yeah, so do you think? Well, that's a good question. Do you think lebanon's getting the housing growth, or do you think that's going to?
Speaker 1:zion, we're starting to, you know. You see that we're getting that brand new lily oh, yeah, huge literally yeah, right around the corner from my house right, it's yeah it's, I'm, yeah, right around the corner from my house, right it's, yeah, it's. I'm talked about this with somebody the other day. I'm curious to see what happens with home prices and stuff, but there's in my head, I'm just it could explode dude, I don't know, man, because it would seem like I mean to me, you know the town better than me.
Speaker 2:Well, this town too, this town couldn't handle 5,000 people.
Speaker 1:I'd hate to figure out how many times I bought that damn thing and I'm not, I'm just, you know by paying it off and by putting more money into it, by making it keeping up.
Speaker 2:you know, I'm sure you'll get it back. You live in a nice neighborhood, man.
Speaker 1:I hope so, but we'll see. I mean, it's growing. Growth is always good. You know I was. I'm fine with you know a little bitty lebanon 3a school too. So well, you know what? Not for this, not little bitty.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, it's not, it's uh.
Speaker 2:What's crazy is because I've had to come into the town from different directions from kokomo, from north, from south and uh, it can be a challenging little town to get through oh yeah, like if you're on the, if you're out on the I don't know what that direction that would be if you're on one side of that town, there, coming from um Kokomo, dude, there's about 50, there's about five, six, six red lights that you've got to get through. You know you can cut right and go down to where you are, but sometimes I come that way. Well, I've come from Anderson Muncie. I think that's the way I would come.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then you can make a right and go through your neighborhood on the other side it's a big neighborhood.
Speaker 1:But I'd rather I like it when that happens Like rarely does it happen with my Ubers, but sometimes it does where they come up through the backside, because it puts me getting in the car on the right side of the car just the side, you know, the right, the proper side, or whatever. So I like it when it happens, but it doesn't happen often enough. I wish I could program that in on my Uber app to like, hey, come down this road, road, this road, and then swing by the house and so I'm just going boom, boom yeah, or whatever.
Speaker 1:So I I see what you're saying they don't do it that way they always come up and then I walk across the street. Not that I it's not that big of an issue I see what you're saying why don't you just we're pulling you're paying for the ride.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm over here and I do want to switch up a little bit, I do want to thank people that have reached out to us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we, we recorded a few weeks ago and walmart rich reached out and uh nct reached out, so it was nice to have some people reach out to us and say it was good to hear, hear us back, or whatever so um we had something we appreciate everybody listening and thank you just had a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1:Man like um I've had some people disappear, uh, that I thought we had a real good rapport with that ufo gal and she just off the map, yeah, yeah yeah, she might be okay, yeah, did you reach out to her?
Speaker 2:did you okay, okay did you reach? Out to her, did you? Okay, yeah, um, that's back in the news too. Okay, the? Uh, there was a testimony. There was a testimony yesterday. Uh, lou alizandor. You know who that is. He's a big. It's just so weird following the story, man, it's um. So now they're saying that we'll talk about it. Okay, but, um, but man, I'm glad you're here, brother I'm glad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good to see you it's good to have be back in the podcast saddle here, um, just had you want to get into. Go ahead, man, you want to start something out.
Speaker 1:Uh, no, you can go right ahead. I'm kind of thumbing through some yeah, so the new york truckers are in revolt david okay they are in revolt.
Speaker 2:The the governor Holchul is looking to revive a planned congestion toll in Manhattan before the new president takes office. Congestion.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Apparently, it's nothing to do with control, it's a tax. Sorry, oh, you're nothing. You're good, david has been under the weather a little bit.
Speaker 1:I have a cough button. Yeah, a cough. Wait, it's not bad weather a little bit Cough button.
Speaker 2:Wait, I'll try. Will this work?
Speaker 1:The only thing I've still got lingering is my cough.
Speaker 2:When Dave coughs, we'll do this.
Speaker 1:It's the Dave button when I talk. That needs to be every other thing anyway Dave button.
Speaker 2:Mother beep so congestion.
Speaker 1:They put mother, yeah, um, so, um congestion. It's bizarre, only for the truckers. I mean, it's not surely not just for some, is it, or is?
Speaker 2:it it. I was reading the plan here because I I just caught on to this lately here. I guess she she proposed it on the 11th. Governor Holtschul's sudden move to implement a congestion pricing in New York city is a blatant bait and switch of hardworking New Yorkers I think it's to everyone that gets on the interstate system there. But now that the election is behind her, she's jumped into the tax invasion of the people. A lot of people are saying it's a bad idea. It's a new tax. The real burden the people.
Speaker 2:A lot of people are saying it's a bad idea. It's a new tax. The real burden. Let's see here. So essentially, new York pays taxes on well-run transit systems, not the house, and then they're throwing in illegal agreements or paying why they want to charge the people after they give it all the tax money away. Oh, this article does not get any better. So, long story short, looks like the, the truckers in the, in the, in the people, the great state of new york are in an uproar over, supposedly, and it looks like she's going to push this thing um, if she doesn't get a lot of rebellion from both sides on it. But it looks like new york's for a congestion toll, which is just asinine right.
Speaker 1:Does it make a bit of sense? Aren't there enough toll stuff out that way already?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember growing up in Chicago and they said that the toll system on the Kennedy and the Eisenhower, they name them, all these beautiful names entice your emotions and get you to pay nickel.
Speaker 1:Congestion pricing is scheduled to begin Sundayay, january the 5th.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man right before the inauguration happy, freaking new year nyc unbelievable dude. So nine dollars. Nine dollars, david, that's more. That's the same price as a bottle of water in Vegas. Nine bucks, yeah, you get thirsty in Vegas. When I was in Vegas, I was like man. Why is?
Speaker 1:water $9?
Speaker 2:And it occurred to me. Something odd occurred to me, david. I was in a desert and I'm wow, they probably have a hard time getting water here, that's fair. Yeah, a million people in a desert. Water is probably a hot thing. So the congestion area is that manhattan? Yeah, it's manhattan central park. Yeah, so she's trying to kill commerce, and what the people in manhattan are saying is you're going to kill our business most vehicles would pay nine dollars to enter the congestion.
Speaker 1:Manhattan must have voted for.
Speaker 2:Trump is the only thing I'm thinking why else would you do that? Oh my lord, wow that just doesn't well, manhattan's the business district, right, so that's where all the businesses well, not all of it, but a lot of it yeah, it's crazy dude. So, um, rates to new york ship's gonna happen. Rates to new york are gonna go up to your point.
Speaker 1:With that I mean, um, it's just the end user, I mean the consumer, us, or we're gonna be the ones end up paying for it anyway by a higher cost shipping or higher cost to do. Yeah, groceries. Yeah, I'm gonna have to rate some shipments into there just to see how. I'm sure it's super high.
Speaker 2:It's already tough right with the boroughs um the congestion and there's obviously congestion in the city, right so but yeah, so it takes effect january 5th. Wow, she's getting a lot of backlash from both sides of the fence on this, so, as she should.
Speaker 1:I just doesn't man again, it's just going to be passed along, so I'm definitely not condoning the I saw. So I saw diesel on the way in, on the way over here today at like up over four bucks. It was like the 420. I'm seeing that the average reason I'm bringing it up, as I see the average cost of diesel is this is, according to transport topics, as of this morning, three dollars and 50s. Who, since I don't, I haven't, I don't see that anywhere, but maybe I'm missing, I didn't look, look driving over, but I I did see one of the diesel costs up over four dollars.
Speaker 1:So I think, and conveniently, coming over here today the car needed gas, and so guess who has to fill up the tank?
Speaker 2:that was it 290 something well, no, that's a good point, because it was heading down right and and then now it's, it's headed up, um, it stinks, it's. So. Here's what it says as of november 12th 2024, the average diesel price of diesel in the united states is down 0.42. Right now, a year ago, it's down 19 so, but it was up, though. From previous weeks though, david, so you did see that. Yeah, so it was up, but um, but what's weird about that? I know what you're saying, though, because sometimes it can be higher in certain areas and not, um, in other areas. You could see it right, lower, or maybe the same, I guess, but right, um, that's interesting, but the good news is the feds have dropped the interest rates for the second time and yeah so it's down now another 25 basis points from 4.5.
Speaker 2:Um, they lowered it to 4.5 from 4.75 rates. Drop 25 basis points the range of 4.5 to 4.75 so hopefully no in my in my head that reasonable, or am I missing something? Yeah, I think it well.
Speaker 1:But there was a time where it was was it zero. It was pretty low.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they say that that basically correlates with inflation rates. So the higher the interest, the higher the inflation rate. So or actually you can take it down, you can hold the inflation rate with interest rates. But I'm not an expert in the economy, but it seems like those two numbers always correlate together. Please don't listen to this show for any. Yeah, don't take any economic advice. But so then you have. You know what do you? Because you guys do some importing right we do, um we do what do you think the tariffs mexico?
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't ever see. I used to see those yeah but I haven't seen them like so what do you?
Speaker 2:what do you think that'll do to you guys if, if there are tariffs imposed, if trump's tariffs imposed, some customers that don't do a lot of international shipping, it won't, you know, won't affect them, but that's a really good question um what was it like in 2016? Did it affect you? No, there's tariffs no, so it may it affect you. No, those tariffs no, so it may not affect you at all.
Speaker 1:Again, we take increases and decreases on our product throughout the year. I know I shouldn't say this, but we haven't had one in a little bit of time. But I've heard some of our suppliers have taken increases. So again, what. I'm getting at is we're just passing along to whoever else yeah, you know where we'll send. They'll send an email to our customers saying at this time, you know it, effective january, the first, expect a whatever increase I mean, then too, though, we'll take decreases too.
Speaker 1:We just don't take increases all the time. We'll take decreases yeah all right, right, you know, march the first we're gonna take a decrease or whatever. So I don't know, just saying you do it every year yeah, and it's been a minute since we've. I can't think of the last time we took an increase. Last time we did anything was a decrease and that was wow, probably I'll go. It was probably july first, ish, today's november, the middle of november 16th, so yeah, it's been a. It's been a minute.
Speaker 2:It's been a minute wow, so you had um, you're gonna bring up yeah, so I see coming over here listening to the.
Speaker 1:I haven't listened to the radio very much lately, but I was listening to the radio coming over and um. So this past year, um, tony had a music pastor. There's a big music venue around here called ruoff and all the big name bands come through there and play.
Speaker 2:And I'm starting to hear about bands already scheduling their 2025 shows.
Speaker 1:So I didn't know. It made me think of Tony right away, like, oh, okay, I wonder if Tony's already got you know, are you already looking ahead, or is it not time to look? Or is that something you normally do to try to plan out for the year? And I know you just don't stay around here. Sometimes you travel to see bands, so I didn't know if there was something that you've already been looking at or thought about going to for next year.
Speaker 2:The only thing we have right now for next year is Billy Joel and Sting in February. Is that Ruoff? No, no, february is that real, no, no, that's not at roo off, but that's at lucas oil. Yeah, it'll be a good one, and then uh, but no, yeah well.
Speaker 1:So it's a great question, man, because sting and billy joel yeah, kind of an odd mix, but all right, be interesting are the when I think of so, when you say sting, when I think of bands that should still be together and probably doing just as well as they did when they were super popular. To me, the police are that band we're like how are these guys huge? Man, how are these guys not playing together? How are they still not?
Speaker 2:you know, one of the elite I think sting just wanted to go out on his own right and and ended it. They had an incredible drummer. There's a three-man, three-man band. Yeah, they were incredible and he just did a couple albums andy summers, is that right?
Speaker 1:the guitar player and then the drummer was um um he's really um. They all seem like super smart dudes too yeah, stewart copeland yeah, yeah, I have he. I've seen him on youtube. Do like, like giving yeah he's all over youtube giving like instructions on how they played their music right it's pretty fascinating, but he sounds remember brendan he sounds like a super super smart dude.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I was gonna play it here a little bit at least.
Speaker 1:It seems like super smart or whatever oh my, did you hear him?
Speaker 2:I did he's doing a one of the youtube things, okay, and he was go ahead though. Yeah, you did.
Speaker 1:You like him growing up um, yeah, I mean, I don't know that I yeah, they were okay, and I don't I, I, I just thought they were super talented, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't necessarily have to, like you know.
Speaker 2:I don't know yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean they were okay. I mean you think back about their oh darn it the names of those albums. I mean they just had some really really good albums and they were always consistent and they just always seemed like that band that was gonna be around for a long, long time or whatever. But you know, I get it. You break up and you, you know people go out and do their own thing. I'm sure they're all extremely successful today. It just was always that band You're like, aren't they still?
Speaker 2:So it shows they were active from 77 to 86. Then it looks like they got together again in 92 to 2003.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that.
Speaker 2:I don't either. Then they got back together 2007 to 2008, so they haven't performed together since 2008, but but sting has gone on to do a lot of things. So, um, but you're right, though, with the thing I noticed I remember about him is it was just a distinctive, different sound. Right, it was just distinctive yeah, punkish well, that's what they're calling it here um, they were saying it was a punkish raggae type of uh mix, um, but yeah interesting so they got together in 86, aborted their sixth album and then they disbanded.
Speaker 1:Um had a reunion tour, yeah, but if they were interesting huh, I bet, if they were union toured now they would do oh yeah, it'd be huge, just as popular as that sting billy joel thing.
Speaker 2:I'm assuming it's going to be pretty, pretty popular or whatever yeah, I would think that, um, there weren't a lot of tickets left, and for it to be november, I think my wife's going.
Speaker 1:Oh, tracy you're not going.
Speaker 2:Maybe she doesn't want me anywhere around but uh, but so back to the roof, though the? Um, yeah, it's, it's so. It's a great question. So what typically happens is um start to look around December to see who's going to show. Okay, so you're not right now.
Speaker 1:You're not a hundred percent for sure You're going to buy a pass. Oh no, we will.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we will for sure, yeah, yeah yeah, 100 I got, but but as far as like knowing who will be there because you'll have friends come down right from chicago and so they always want to go to a good show you really won't know that. So like, for instance, um, the red hot chilippers announced that their tour in like January and they showed that they would be in Ruah.
Speaker 1:Weren't they? I thought Am I thinking of somebody else? I thought last year was their last tour, not no?
Speaker 2:Was their last tour. It might have been, I don't know Maybe not Okay, I hope not, but it was. They, announced it they okay, I hope not, but it was um they announced it. They announced their show for 2024 in like january.
Speaker 2:Okay, so they only do like 18 shows and ruoff was one of them, and so you'll have. You'll have like that pop up in january, february, and then you know, dave matthews is going to play two nights. You just don't know if it's going to be may, june or july, and then he usually puts his out. He's already has his 2024 early stuff out, like he's going to, you know, cabo wabo, whatever, um, not cabo wabo, um wherever the heck that is.
Speaker 1:So there's a band that I happened upon last year, or this year actually, a band called lettuce, as in a head of lettuce out of. They're a funk band out of boston, and they've been around a long long time.
Speaker 1:Mac and I saw him at mac daddy hi-fi a couple months ago and they were just awesome and I see that they're going to be in columbus, ohio, on saturday, february the first. I'm tempted to have some friends that live over that way. I'm tempted to hit them up and maybe see if tracy wants to tag along to go see them in columbus lettuce they're. They're more of a columbus indiana ohio.
Speaker 2:Oh, like their um indoor facility yeah, not a.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're a big venue band. I think like hi-fi in the vogue. I think they're that size of a venue band, which is good you know, not super big, not super small, just one of those you know but man they're good, and I think I'm gonna go see them in columbus in february damn dude, they play everywhere they do.
Speaker 1:Oh, they go overseas and I just wonder what took me so long to find them. It's kind of one of those bands that end up in your algorithm. You're like who's this? And then, when you listen, you're like oh crap they're good.
Speaker 2:They'll be in del mar, california, january 26th they're just instrumental for the most part 23rd 24th in california, louisville, columbus, harrisburg, pennsylvania wow, louisville's a good town too.
Speaker 1:I like louisville. That's an underrated city.
Speaker 2:My opinion yeah louisville louisville, louisville, louisville, kentucky and say louisville.
Speaker 1:How do you pronounce the state capital of kentucky?
Speaker 1:frankfurt, frankfurt, kentucky damn be the north frankfurt we are here by neutral in this war they have a louisville has a lights under louisville like a holiday display. It's probably I don't know what the duration it takes about an hour to get through it, but I'm not sure if, like it's a two mile thing or a mile thing or whatever, it's underground cavern, they have it all decked out in holiday yeah it's man that's. I think we might do that again. That's super cool, those that is yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, that is awesome, man. I look forward to it, though it'll you just don't know. Last year was the most epic concert series I think there ever was, at rooff it was. It was huge, okay, so hopefully it'll be another one like that, I mean, with it being ranked as high as it's been on venues. You hope that it will be. Uh, I'm gonna have to get there, I guess.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I've never been. I can't believe it. Oh my god, it's just one of those things. It's not on my. I'm not a big venue guy, so I'm like, nah, but there's a bunch of you not just you, but as many. Much as other people talk about it being that good. I've seen pictures, I mean, and it looks I got invited one year to go, um I got invited one year to go um when dave matthews was in town so one of my friends had vip area seats.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that'd be fun. Like I turned it down you did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be. Uh, so that, yeah, that might be a little crowded in there. The lawns, the lawns the best to me because you just got space, you can get up, move around. It's not a hassle, okay. When you're down that low, yeah, your seat's better. But did the experience really change? No, I've been down low and I I saw matthews like that, didn't like it went one night down low, the next night in the lawn and um, did you sneak down low or did you have no?
Speaker 2:we had, we paid to go down low one night just because we'd never done it. We never did it. So and I did it and I, well, I think we did it twice. We did it. Yeah, we did do it twice, did it to dave matthews I'm trying to remember what other band it was. It's before we had the lawn pass. And then, um, yeah, if you just go early enough and you get in the lawn, you you're I mean, you're just like what's security like, is it? You're just past the people that just paid hundreds of more dollars than you. You're getting the same.
Speaker 1:You're hearing the same.
Speaker 2:Yes, your listening experience isn't any different no, and you can get up and move around and you know what I mean get up over the bathroom.
Speaker 1:I think I've asked you this before and I don't remember what the answer was, and maybe I'm wrong. I'm thinking this are there people that legitimately show up and tailgate to listen? Is that possible? Do they do that?
Speaker 2:yeah, so, so, yeah, yeah, so oh yeah so what?
Speaker 2:so, yeah, but if you so there, you have to have a plan. So so if your plan is to go there, so some people go there and they want to, they want to drink a little bit before they go in. So those people are not going to get the best seats, they're going to stay in the parking lot, they're going to wait till about the show starts. And it's a smart idea because you'll save money. And then cause, those drinks are expensive and they're super tall, and by the time you drink half of it it's warm. So um, um, and they're expensive. They're, you know, like 12, 14, 15 bucks. So so it's smart to probably do that. So but you're not going to get a good seat. So my plan is we go there, we drink a few in the, in the parking lot, and then you go in early and then you just have to drink water until the show starts and then. But so you know it's a trade-off but are there?
Speaker 1:what I'm asking is, are there? Are there people that stay in the parking lot the duration of the show to listen, probably, I think those are the people that can't make it in.
Speaker 2:They've drank too much, but generally I think they all eventually go in. There are probably some that don't even have tickets. They just park there. So that you know what I mean for the experience there.
Speaker 1:Probably is that I know some dumbass that sits out in the parking lot for a football game for 15 seasons. It doesn't go in time well so I didn't know if I just was. I'm sure there is I'm sure there is.
Speaker 2:You know how many times I went to wrigley field and didn't go to the game. Oh, didn't make it into the game, or, or, or. One of the worst is ann could tell you um, in college southern illinois would have a. Every tailgate would be a chili cook-off. They'd have this chili cook-off contest at the tailgate. So what you do is you get up and you go to the tailgate and you would eat the chili and then everyone would be drinking and having fun and somehow you there would be.
Speaker 2:There was a shot one time, a helicopter news shot of the people at the tailgate and the people in the football game, and they were david. There were more people tailgate than there were at the football. So then southern said we're shutting down the tailgates early. So that, yeah, they would. They started shutting down the tailgates like an hour before kickoff. Try to force everyone into the game. That didn't last. So then the chili cook-off people were mad. So, yeah, it was funny. So literally you knew it would be free chili. People would just be handing you chili. So as a broke college student, it would be kind of fun to just oh man, I got my, got my meal for the day. Can I get a bowl to go?
Speaker 1:not that there's a wrong answer to this question, because there isn't. Are you a a bean or no bean guy with your chili?
Speaker 2:oh, I like being in it. Yeah, just like, wow, what the heck is that? But had beans in it. Um, had a chili taste to it. Oh, okay, it was really good. Wow, anyways, um, but yeah, the uh beans. Beans are fine meat or no meat, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Pasta or no pasta?
Speaker 2:I don't like long-strain pasta. I could do with one of those small ones called elbows. I could deal with that. Yeah, I don't want spaghetti Noodles.
Speaker 1:No beans, no pasta. That's just me, yeah.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't agree pretty much though much, though maybe elbows but that's about it, but, um, it's that season too.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's that season for cup of chili. So before I forget, because I'm going to if I don't say something now. Um, ugly sweater, oh, party is friday, the 6th, december 6th. Wow, yeah, so just throwing that out there. From four to eight it's always well attended people were oh yeah talking about it last night it's legendary yeah, ugly sweater that's good that you do that yeah, how long have you been doing?
Speaker 1:a good 10 years. Probably donald will be there. It's been a minute since we've seen donna. Um, she's helping put it together and stuff. So yeah, I'm excited it'll be fun yeah this is it's always, excuse me, always a really big turnout man.
Speaker 2:So you had a good time at the tailgates.
Speaker 1:Marion tailgate nice yeah, yeah, I found um. I went. Only went in twice this year, which is are people like there he is. He came in so they have a. They have an m club section, like so I belong to the m club and so I'll just sit in the m club area. Yeah, they give you a couple drink tickets and so kind of bump into some people that you know just a couple times a year or whatever.
Speaker 2:I only went in twice.
Speaker 1:I went to each game, only went in twice, which is fine. I've only in my 15 years I haven't been in 15 times. Wow, it's just, I mean you just start tailgating?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it's a big production.
Speaker 1:A bunch of different people show up and you know, yeah, you just sent John Brockett came. Matt was there at one of the games. I think Matt really Matt came. Matt went inside with me for one of the games. I think he really liked it, or at least it seemed like he liked it, and so and I have basketball tickets too, so I'll, I'm gonna try to make it to some basketball games yeah so Bob Knight's son is the coach there for basketball.
Speaker 2:Is he really Patrick Knight or the?
Speaker 1:wow yeah because this is his first season there.
Speaker 2:So yeah, because he coached in texas university of el paso, texas, I thought for a while that sounds right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a. There's people that make excellent careers out of working at those small schools oh yeah, well, and that's a good school.
Speaker 2:That's like a that's they're aggressive in the sports, right?
Speaker 1:so today's the monon bell wabash depaul game. That's today, so, wow, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:Produce off today no, no, they're not no they're not.
Speaker 1:No, they're not. I use off today.
Speaker 2:I don't remember yeah, I use off today.
Speaker 1:I don't remember who Purdue plays, but I use off today, so yeah, so what do you think about them, hoosiers?
Speaker 2:Well, how about them?
Speaker 1:Hoosiers, I'm not the biggest fan. Their schedule's been cupcake, my opinion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they really haven't played anybody.
Speaker 1:But whatever, I mean first time in however many years that they've been this good never been 10 and 0 right, yeah, wow, yeah. So this is next weekend the ohio state game, I think that's a big game, yeah, and that's at ohio state, right?
Speaker 2:so let me see, let me make sure that's at ohio state and then then three games the next week. So I mean they're ranked fifth in the nation? David, yep, they're ranked fifth in the nation. Just a reminder they haven't played anybody.
Speaker 1:So I mean David's a.
Speaker 2:Purdue fan For you people not from Indiana. You cannot be both Right, you cannot be both. As much as I want to give them props, I'm like you know, play somebody? Yeah, well they're, you guys can get your. You guys can get your claws in them. If, in the final game of this, you can ruin their season, here's the difference here's.
Speaker 1:Here's my perceived difference between the iu fan and the purdue fan. I'm a purdue fan that's gonna honestly admit that, yeah, we suck, we've won our one game this year and we're not gonna win anything else. It's the purdue fan that's going to honestly admit that, yeah, we suck, we've won our one game this year and we're not going to win anything else. It's the purdue fan that goes on our normal season. When they go 10, 2 and 10, yeah, they're like oh, yeah, you 2 and 10. Or they go 6 and 6 and to get to 6 and 6 they had to beat purdue. That's something to hang your hat on. I mean, it's good for the university, it's good for the state, but I'm just not a big fan and play somebody yeah play somebody, but that'll be the test next weekend at ohio state.
Speaker 1:So well, I mean the college. There's not. To me, though, there's nothing better than college football. College football is the sport in own opinion.
Speaker 2:So what you're telling me, really what I'm feeling, what you're throwing down David B is that you've won 77 times and I usually only won 42.
Speaker 1:Oh, what was that again? There must be something wrong with my earphones. For those of you listening, at home.
Speaker 2:What you're saying is Purdue has beaten, has beaten indiana 77 times right, and how many times has iu won 42, oh, just checking six, six ties, boom. Yeah, so what you're saying is have your little season, iu, but really we know who you are right. Is that what you're saying? We know who you, we know where you're from, we know what you look like. We know what you look like. We know what you talk like. We know that bunch from IU, so Colts at Jets this weekend.
Speaker 1:What are the Bears doing? Are the Bears?
Speaker 2:The Bears need them. They already had their buy, but they probably could use another one. Oh my Lord David, I was dreading you bringing up the Bears.
Speaker 1:Well, we don't have to. No, it's fine.
Speaker 2:It's always good stuff, Shit. I got to kind of get to get.
Speaker 1:Okay, not right now, hang on.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about that. The Colts are playing the Jets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they'll lose. They'll lose. You think I mean it's the Colts, it's at the Jets.
Speaker 2:But it's.
Speaker 1:Rodgers will probably go for throw for 400-plus yards and we'll get beat 37-0.
Speaker 2:Well, the Jets' season is pretty much over at 3-7. They have nothing to lose. The Colts are 4-6. You really can't lose more than one more game right. Two more maybe, David, I don't know. I mean, what's going on with the colts? Anyway, it's like it's a good question.
Speaker 1:Who's the quarterback this week? It's richardson.
Speaker 2:He's back why did he take himself out?
Speaker 1:I never did really follow I'm not sure I'm not, I think that's just kind of one of those things that you lie about where you gotta you, you know. Just say you got your bell rung, or say you're whatever, instead of like oh I was tired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the Bears at four and five are heading into the Green Bay Packers. It's at Chicago, oh, tomorrow, tomorrow, one, six and three Packers against the Chicago Bears, okay.
Speaker 2:Now I I it's not my emotion saying this. I think the Bears could win this one, and I think they just might. I think it's going to be a surprise win. Green Bay should beat them. But I just think that. I just think that this time they're not going to win. I just they may win at home when they play again, but I don't, they're not going to win. They may win at home when they play again, but I don't think they're going to win. The Bears have to win. This freaking game, dude, everything you've done comes down to today You're playing Green Bay at home. You got to win. You got to win Not today, but tomorrow. You got to win. Is there a coach? The issue? You know it's a great, fabulous question. David's something I've pondered in my mind since conception is it abrafloose is that right?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know I, here's what I'm gonna say. Um, and people might disagree, it's a good argument, a good conversation, a good debate, good topic. Okay, if the Bears had the Colts ownership, we probably would have won four or five Super Bowls. Oh, wow, okay, I just think that they do so many stupid things. Poles has done a great job getting these athletes right. So then you're like well, now I got to coach them right. So it looks like you got a rookie quarterback. You had to do what you had to do. Um, I just I guess to be four and five with a rookie quarterback's not bad, but there's been some games they could have won. Um, it's just frustrating. Uh, fields, fields was four and two at pittsburgh. Right, fields seems to do better in pittsburgh than he didn't. I mean, so is it the coaching? It's got to be a combination of it all, man. So the except for the guy getting the players, he's getting the players speaking of coaching, so the parent, the Pacers, get embarrassed at home.
Speaker 1:last night, 124-112 by the Miami Heat. They're two games under .500. I know it's only early in the season, but there were fans that were booing at the game. Fans have every right to boo and I'm like something has to give, something has to change.
Speaker 2:Rick Carlisle is the head coach.
Speaker 1:Something's got to give. Something has to change. Rick Carlisle is the head coach. Something's got to give. We just can't keep. We've got an extremely talented team. I mean, we made it to the Eastern Conference Finals last year. Again, I know it's still early, but we're two games under .500, and you were embarrassed at home last night by the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2:And what type of team does the Heat have, I mean?
Speaker 1:Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Jimmy Butler Bam out of Bayou, but not a stellar team. I mean not a team that you should be getting beat at home by by 12 points.
Speaker 2:You know being a guy fromago and watching the bulls run, it just seems to me like the pacers don't want to make that step right, like they can't get over that to your, to your point. I mean, they just can't get that one nail to your to your point.
Speaker 1:With that we have we have two max contract players that are not playing to their max contract in my opinion right tyrese halliburton.
Speaker 2:All season has been basically invisible you know, or not producing, come on yeah, it's like they yeah it. They've had some great teams and ran into some obstacles, but it seems like the way this league's watered down, they should be able to being watered down, meaning there's not so many marquee-dominating LeBrons Michaels. Right, yeah, they should be able to Ready for the Fever, to start playing again. Fever when do they start?
Speaker 1:April, I think. I think it's april the fever.
Speaker 2:I got the, so caitlin kirk won the rookie of the year, stephanie white's their new coach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, yeah, right, that called that you know what you?
Speaker 2:you were calling that all year um. So what's the difference do you think will be on that I just I think the my opinion. Oh, she's from west lebanon wow, a prude, oh purdue alumni and also also played for the fever, did she really okay?
Speaker 1:I didn't know that his very first acquisition was her Not draft, but they acquired her. Like whatever it was so yeah, she's coached the Fever in the past. Oh, she has.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know how did they do? Why'd they get rid of her?
Speaker 1:She left for more money.
Speaker 2:She's a pretty lady.
Speaker 1:The college game was more money. So she coached at a few universities. I think she coached at Purdue and Vanderbilt, I don't remember where else. But yeah, she's, yeah, I think they're going to. I wish I hope they stand pat. As far as our roster is concerned, and I think just the coach is going to make a huge changing coach is going to make a huge difference.
Speaker 2:You think so, mm-hmm?
Speaker 1:huge change in coach is going to make a huge difference?
Speaker 2:you think so. New head coach, stephanie white, quickly outlined her targets for the indiana fever, putting pressure on caitlin clark and her teammates. Stephanie white has returned to the indiana fever with ambition, vision. Caitlin clark and her teammates, after reassuming the roles head coached and if you reach the playoffs this season, only to be eliminated in the first round, swept by white's connecticut sun yeah, she was coaching at connecticut, wow, okay. The outcome resulted in a demissal of christina science that paved the way for white's return. Darn, you did not like her, did not? White made her expectations crystal clear in four words it's competing for championships, she declared. Expectation has always been competing for championships and now I think we have the opportunity to gain doing that. Wow, okay, cool.
Speaker 1:We'll see. Um. So do you see? Caitlin tagged somebody with a golf ball the other day.
Speaker 2:No, he's teeing off with the I heard about it, I didn't see it yeah, nailed, she did pow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just went on about her day like nothing happened, like my bad. I'm gonna check it out. I guess that's the. I mean, do you take that risk when you're standing there? I mean, I guess that you're you stand there at your own risk, right, you know?
Speaker 2:I've always wondered um, like sometimes in the they call it the galley that are on the sides, yeah, it's dangerous, man, I mean the pros are probably gonna. You know if you're standing there and Charles Barkley's teeing off, and yeah, I mean she's gonna. Yeah, it's wow. Okay, so she nailed some. I didn't see that. Caitlin Clark I mean Caitlin Clark hits some. I didn't see that. Um, caitlin clark, I mean caitlin clark hits what? Oh, say not, shall I? Uh, caitlin clark hits what golf ball hits? We did hit a man or woman woman.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure it was a woman.
Speaker 2:Here it is oh. Oh, she hooked it. Oh, that's bad, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, oh, she didn't go back far enough in her back swing. Oh my God, angel Reese was stepping up to hit a golf ball. Well, if Reese almost took a fan's head off with a shank.
Speaker 2:Everyone just stood there and waited. She didn't go back far enough in her backswing. Whoa, oh my gosh dude, that was nasty, yeah. But you know what? Those people shouldn't be standing that close. That's the risk you take.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a high risk right.
Speaker 1:But then she just teed right off and did it, I mean, she nailed the second shot.
Speaker 2:Jake Paul beat Mike Tyson last night. Jake and I watched it. Tyson did good in the first couple of rounds and then it was over. Okay yeah, 58-year-old man against a 20-some-year-old man.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't think I've ever been into boxing. Have you ever been into boxing?
Speaker 2:I don't know that I yeah I I like it okay, like, um, I don't watch it like yeah big events and stuff. I, I, I will, but um, and that was last night the biggest yeah, it was on netflix for free. Oh, I forgot about it too. They were supposed to fight a while back, and then Tyson backed out due to some injury. But not bad though, but it was weird. What were their paydays, do you know? That's obviously why they did it. It looked like Jake Paul was not being so.
Speaker 1:Kind of let up. You mean, yeah, taking mercy on him, yeah that's what Jake said.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, dude, kind of let up, you mean yeah, I think taking mercy on. Yeah, that's what jake said.
Speaker 1:And then um, how long did it go? I think jake was sizing me up, dude, last night, like hey, you know, dad are you?
Speaker 2:58. No, well, well, yeah, I reminded him of that. Yeah, I'm not there yet. Um, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was weird. How many rounds?
Speaker 2:oh my gosh was it eight or something, I think I heard eight rounds yeah eight rounds, interesting, wow yeah. Oh well, at least nobody died. Were there pre-matches? Yeah, some, there were some good fights. There was a girl who headbutted another girl and cut her right here gets dude, it was flesh. Oh, it was bad.
Speaker 1:Um, I think she would have won the fight if she would have got headbutted back in the day we used to go to the way back in the day we would go to the um amateur boxing there at the armory, downtown golden gloves, golden gloves yeah, that's a big deal we would yeah, we would go to, we would do like the championship week yeah, golden gloves or whatever. Yeah, that was, that was boy. That's a long time ago.
Speaker 2:Well, no, that's funny. You said that because, um, I used to go to him in chicago, okay, and um, I don't know if you'll remember these names Mark Breland was the New York Golden Glove champion and he was fighting the Chicago Golden Glove champion. Mark Breland went on to win an Olympic gold medal Olympic gold medal and was the Walter Waite champion of the world for a while, so I got to see him. And then, mike Weaveraver, do you remember him?
Speaker 1:no, he was a heavyweight.
Speaker 2:He, I think he might have won the championship too, but both of them were from new york and they killed chicago's golden club boxers yeah, I always liked that.
Speaker 1:I like the amateur yeah, it's good stuff there's a lot of. I'm sure it still is the same. I'm sure they still have it it it was pretty packed and there was that restaurant that was there on the corner on the point elbow room, so we would go to the elbow room before and after, oh boy, that was fun, that was always a freight, that was a freight entertainment day yeah, it says here Indiana Golden golden glove tournament started in 1923.
Speaker 2:It's a website.
Speaker 1:February ish yeah if I remember right, wow, february march.
Speaker 2:Ish, yeah, you can get on eight weeks or something, you can get on their site and fill out your entry form and all that oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's no age group for you and I david there is no, there's no fat balding mid 50 year old category. It says here warning stay away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, pretty cool though I I didn't really. I'm sure they had one, I've been. Really this physical experience could, could kill you oh yeah, dude, boxing, you ever do it. No, oh my god, I've never been in a fight ever. Boxing and wrestling are like the uh most. Boxing, wrestling and swimming are the most brutal. I played water polo. Um, that was brutal dude.
Speaker 1:Absolutely brutal, you mean due to the condition you have to be in. Is that what you're saying? Yeah For maintaining weight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was on like a club team in the military and we play and you're in the deep end the whole time. The hole's deep, you can't hit the bottom. I've always been in the shallow end. You're treading water the whole time.
Speaker 2:And you've got dudes that can float on their back and catch a ball, turn around, do weird stuff. Well, you know really quick and you're moving slower, obviously, in the water, but it's brutal because you gotta play, you gotta be swimming the whole time, um, and then boxing. I mean, could you imagine throwing? I had, I used to do that a lot because I had the bag and stuff. You go and I would do like three minutes of just, you know, moving around. Oh my God dude, yeah, you're like the war out, just shadow boxing. You know what I mean? Yeah, brutal, wow, but anyways, david B's got to run.
Speaker 1:Producer Tony. It's been good. Thanks for everybody for listening. It's going to be a good weekend, my friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hey, have a good one, david, you do the same.
Speaker 1:Thanks.